List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

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List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by Digsu » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:16 pm

I got the idea to do this after the cut version of GNG was briefly brought up in the TLW topic: a comprehensive list of every scene cut from the Nordic dub versions of GNG. If I've missed any please point it out!

First, some general things:

-Since the episodes were all mashed together onto 90 minute VHS tapes, all the commercial break eyecatches and most of the openings and endings were cut. Each VHS only featured an opening and an ending for the very first and very last episode, respectively, except for the fourth and final one which had no ending at all.

-All title cards were also cut. Every scene that took place between the opening and title card was also cut. This includes the scene in episode 5 where Gin receives his scars.

-Most of the scenes appear to have been cut for excessive violence, though towards the end it seems they were cutting out stuff just so they could fit the whole series onto four VHS tapes.

-The dub generally does nothing to address the abrupt cuts and characters disappearing for no reason, and instead carries on with the original script (or a mangled version of it, rather) like nothing was wrong. 4kids this ain't.

-All timestamps are based on the original, uncut episodes.

Episode 1
Shiro and Akakabuto's battle (1:17-2:44)
Flashback to said battle (7:47-7:50)
Gohei tries to feed his leg to Riki (13:00-13:40)

Episode 2:
Last on-screen hit Gohei gives Gin (6:40-6:42) Thanks to Doragon for pointing this out!

Episode 3
Hidetoshi's headshot on Akakabuto's descendant (10:24-10:28)

Episode 5
Mother bear reacts to Daisuke shooting her eye (4:11-4:15)
Daisuke's arrow hits mother bear's throat (7:20-7:22)
Daisuke's arrow hits mother bear's nose (7:31-7:35)
Closeup of mother bear's arrow-filled face (7:38-7:41)
Another closeup of bear's face (7:47-7:48)
Another such closeup (8:06-8:10)
Another bear face closeup (9:40-9:45)
Blood erupts from bear's head and it falls backwards (13:02-13:11)
John kills one of Akakabuto's cubs (15:10-15:13)
John kills the other cub (16:35-16:42)
Daisuke pulls an arrow from mother bear's face (17:21:17:27)
Another closeup of mother bear's face (17:47-17:51)

Episode 6
Madara hits hunter in the face (7:24-7:26)
Blood splatter as Mosa pounces hunter (7:39-7:40)
Dogs attack bear's eye (19:41-19:45)
Basset's dismembered head appears (11:12-11:28)

Episode 8
Cross attacks Akakabuto's eye and blood spurts out (15:14-15:15)
Cross is wounded by Akakabuto (15:22-15:30)
Cross's friends are killed by Akakabuto (15:36-15:45)
Shot of wounded Cross and her dead friends (15:57-16:03)

Episode 12
Hayato and Koga dog inside the spike pit (8:38-18-50)

Episode 13
Kurojaki gets his sickle in his eye (4:51-5:14)
Another shot of Kurojaki with the sickle in his eye (5:29-5:32)

Episode 14
Nameless dog bites Akame's neck and blood comes out (16:25-16:27)

Episode 16:
Gin and company meet Oliver and board a truck to Mutsu (7:05-8:21)
Terry fights Kisaragi (13:07-16:33)
Part of the Ohu vs Mutsu fight and the bears throwing Terry's corpse at them (18:01-19:13)
From 20:29 on the rest of the episode is missing

Episodes 17, 18, and 19 are missing entirely

Episode 20
Harpoon bear kills Kesagake (4:23-4:39)
Harpoon bear tears off Kesagake's jaw and drinks his blood (4:49-5:00)
Harpoon bear kills a bunch of dogs (5:53-5:56)
A bunch of dogs are squished by a tree* (6:13-6:17)
Harpoon bear graphically bleeds out (10:55-11:09)
Riki cuts a bear's head off (16:49-17:04)
Closeups of Kisaragi and Hazuki biting a bear (19:59-20:03)
Hakurou and Kai bros kill a bear (20:37-20:40)
The last few shots from 20:36 on are missing

Episode 21
Dogs getting squashed by rocks (3:04-3:09)
Ben spin-biting Akakabuto (3:53-3:55)
Akakabuto hits Ben (4:09-4:13)
Akatora's death (5:08-8:54)
Part of the final battle (10:13-11:26)
Akakabuto bleeds from Riki's Battouga while Riki lands (12:35-12:46)
Akakabuto bleeds from Gin's Battouga and falls down (13:03-13:22)
Akakabuto rises again, kills Riki, and is beheaded by Gin's Battouga (15:20-17:01)
Shot of bloodied Riki and talk about his death (18:07-18:29)
Everything from 20:32 on is cut

*this is a rare case of the dub addressing a missing scene - the narrator actually says that the Harpoon Bear pushed a tree onto the dogs... and "killed them all". Bit of an exaggeration there, I'd say.



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Re: List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by Arano » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:25 pm

Wow, I knew a lot was cut but three ENTIRE episodes? You poor kids!

And poor you for having to slog through all of this, well done Digsu for your dedicated service to this fandom ;D

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Re: List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by Flanoir » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:51 pm

So since part of it may be explained by tape-friendliness - if I may so - what about tv broadcasts, if they happened?

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Re: List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by Doragon » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:11 am

Flanoir wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:51 pm
So since part of it may be explained by tape-friendliness - if I may so - what about tv broadcasts, if they happened?
There are rumors about tv broadcasts, but no evidence such thing ever happened.

Even if it did happen, I'm sure it would've been the same thing as the tapes.

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Re: List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by Tora » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:25 am

Well done with poiting it all out Digsu!

I can still see the cut jumps in the dib without even watching, as I've seen it so often.
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Re: List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by Doragon » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:18 am

For those who are curious about the dub, here is the first part of the Finnish dub (containing episodes 1-4):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AepQ0KFSV7o

I think it's well worth to watch just to hear that "excellent" dubbing.

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Re: List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by Tora » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:25 am

Doragon wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:18 am
For those who are curious about the dub, here is the first part of the Finnish dub (containing episodes 1-4):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AepQ0KFSV7o

I think it's well worth to watch just to hear that "excellent" dubbing.
Yup, so exellent and well done. ;P ;P
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Re: List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by Tikikata » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:57 am

Doragon wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:18 am
For those who are curious about the dub, here is the first part of the Finnish dub (containing episodes 1-4):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AepQ0KFSV7o

I think it's well worth to watch just to hear that "excellent" dubbing.
I've watched through the entirety of the Finnish dub and am always bewildered by the quality checks on this. What company dubbed this? Was this the norm for Finnish dubs back in the day? I must know. XD


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Re: List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by Doragon » Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:25 am

Tikikata wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:57 am
I've watched through the entirety of the Finnish dub and am always bewildered by the quality checks on this. What company dubbed this? Was this the norm for Finnish dubs back in the day? I must know. XD
This was dubbed by Golden Voice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Voice_Oy
Funnily enough, this isn't even the worst Finnish dub of an anime or cartoon I know. Just check Agapio Racing Team (their most famous work is dubbing the first half of Digimon Adventure 01).

And sadly, dubs with this quality were a norm back in 80's and 90's. Back then many anime series were dubbed and published on VHS tapes like this, Ginga just happened to be a one that gained popularity among the kids of that era (the story touched the heart of many kids, including me :'D).

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Re: List of scenes cut from the original dubs of GNG

Post by zj » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:27 pm

Digsu wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:16 pm
Episode 3
Hidetoshi's headshot on Akakabuto's descendant (10:24-10:28)
I think they also cut out the additional shots he made on the corpse? Been a while since i watched it now lmao

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