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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Gingaddict » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:54 pm

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Dp we have any evidence of Bonn having problems with his father/his father being cruel to him or his friends other than Bonn's own words? Or even evidence of Blanca actually telling Bonn what he claims his uncle have said?
The scene with Bonn defying Matheus is still from his own initiative after he's been converted to Ohu army, too.
Even if Blanca did really say what Bonn claims he said, it still doesn't prove Matheus being a bad father, just that in war it's not safe with him anymore especially considering how strong Gennai is. He might have just said that to ensure Bonn stays with the winning side instead of returning in Masamune's path, who WOULD kill a puppy.
The narrator says that it wasn't until he joined the Ohu army that Bon finally got to live a proper puppy's life and have friends.

Also imho assuming that Bon is such a convincing actor that he's capable of instantly fake crying at the mention of his father and coming up with lies about Blanca's last words and Mateus being a remorseless murderer while still crying his eyes out over Blanca's death requires making far more assumptions than him genuinely despising his father. Theories are well and good, but Ginga is the sort of series where subtlety does not exist - canonically, everything is always exactly the way it's presented as. I'm not stopping you from having a headcanon that Bon is secretly a master manipulator (it's honestly a really neat theory), but as far as actual canon goes, he hated his father and Mateus had a history of killing his sons playmates.

I'm not saying he was fake crying, neither at the mention of his father nor at Blanca's death. It's just that the sudden change of attitude (he wasn't unhappy when he debuted, in fact he seemed boastful and proud to be leader's son) seemed really weird. There was also an odd pause of tension about what Blanca whispered to him, AND it wasn't shown, like other times. It was left for the character himself to explain.
That's the thing. Ginga is always very straightforward when it comes to abusive fathers and unhappy sons.
He definitely got a far more healthier and normal lifestyle with Ohu army, which is what narrator said, yeah.
Matheus said that it was Bonn himself who killed his friends and that also makes sense for Bonn to just blame everyone else. His friends or his father, anyone just not himself. We've never seen him remorseful after all...
All very interesting answers, it's just from the outside, it looked like Bon had Stockholm Syndrome!
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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Kaiken » Fri May 15, 2020 6:08 pm

What about Bonn's mother? How can a pup so young be without mother? What happened with Matheus wife? Any theories or answers form interviews? Anything?
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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Digsu » Fri May 15, 2020 7:19 pm

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What about Bonn's mother? How can a pup so young be without mother? What happened with Matheus wife? Any theories or answers form interviews? Anything?
No official answer exists for that.

Presumably she was another victim of whatever's happened to all the unseen mothers of Ginga. Death by childbirth? Fatal illness that only targets nursing female dogs? Unexplained breakup between parents? Who knows.
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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Wolpard » Fri May 15, 2020 7:46 pm

Digsu wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 7:19 pm
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Fri May 15, 2020 6:08 pm
What about Bonn's mother? How can a pup so young be without mother? What happened with Matheus wife? Any theories or answers form interviews? Anything?
No official answer exists for that.

Presumably she was another victim of whatever's happened to all the unseen mothers of Ginga. Death by childbirth? Fatal illness that only targets nursing female dogs? Unexplained breakup between parents? Who knows.
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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Digsu » Fri May 15, 2020 7:59 pm

Wolpard wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 7:46 pm
Digsu wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 7:19 pm
Kaiken wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 6:08 pm
What about Bonn's mother? How can a pup so young be without mother? What happened with Matheus wife? Any theories or answers form interviews? Anything?
No official answer exists for that.

Presumably she was another victim of whatever's happened to all the unseen mothers of Ginga. Death by childbirth? Fatal illness that only targets nursing female dogs? Unexplained breakup between parents? Who knows.
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Manly dogs can manifest without a mother, dont you know?
Oh, right. :derpgin:

Either that or there's a secret clan of storks who only deliver puppies to single fathers in the Gingaverse.



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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Kaiken » Fri May 15, 2020 8:18 pm

Digsu wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 7:59 pm
Wolpard wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 7:46 pm
Digsu wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 7:19 pm


No official answer exists for that.

Presumably she was another victim of whatever's happened to all the unseen mothers of Ginga. Death by childbirth? Fatal illness that only targets nursing female dogs? Unexplained breakup between parents? Who knows.
:THOT:
Manly dogs can manifest without a mother, dont you know?
Oh, right. :derpgin:

Either that or there's a secret clan of storks who only deliver puppies to single fathers in the Gingaverse.
And only male puppies, too!
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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Dragon » Thu May 28, 2020 12:27 pm

I never realized until looking through Tesshin's wikia gallery... that it took until GDWO for us to see Tesshin's battouga! Is this true? Or am I just forgetting when he did it other times? I don't count his training on the tree branch since it's not really a battouga, just a demonstration on how it would look like.
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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Dragon » Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:20 pm

Sorry for the double post, but another thing I wanna add...
Rigel is the only star pup that ACTUALLY killed someone, right? Orion technically was the cause for the first bad guy he met to have drowned, but does that count? I can't remember him successfully killing anyone though.
Rigel slit open the throat of one of the pursuers of Terumune and was praised for it. I'm almost shocked he's the sanest pup after doing that. I don't recall any of the other beardogs killing someone before, besides Riki killing some wolves who attacked Fuuga. Weed let Sniper's body wash away into the water, but it's another tough thing to know whether to count that as him or not, like Orion.

I don't fault Rigel for this, because Terumune was going to die otherwise. I'm just surprised.
also sorry if any of that is wrong .w. please dont hesitate to correct my errors x'D
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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Kaiken » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:27 pm

Dragon wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:20 pm
Sorry for the double post, but another thing I wanna add...
Rigel is the only star pup that ACTUALLY killed someone, right? Orion technically was the cause for the first bad guy he met to have drowned, but does that count? I can't remember him successfully killing anyone though.
Rigel slit open the throat of one of the pursuers of Terumune and was praised for it. I'm almost shocked he's the sanest pup after doing that. I don't recall any of the other beardogs killing someone before, besides Riki killing some wolves who attacked Fuuga. Weed let Sniper's body wash away into the water, but it's another tough thing to know whether to count that as him or not, like Orion.

I don't fault Rigel for this, because Terumune was going to die otherwise. I'm just surprised.
also sorry if any of that is wrong .w. please dont hesitate to correct my errors x'D
Weed killed one of Hougen's soldiers and both him and Gin killed Russian war dogs, if you also count other dogs from bear hound family.
About Star Pups you might be right. Can't think of anyone who has been killed by them right now from the translated volumes.
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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Dragon » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:57 pm

Kaiken wrote:
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Weed killed one of Hougen's soldiers and both him and Gin killed Russian war dogs, if you also count other dogs from bear hound family.
About Star Pups you might be right. Can't think of anyone who has been killed by them right now from the translated volumes.
Oh righhtt, from the battougas! Thanks for reminding me xD
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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Digsu » Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:08 am

Gin also killed Juga and one of the Makai Juuninshu in the wolf arc and possibly killed Demon in Jerome's flashback in the Kaibutsu arc (it's kind of ambiguous if he was dead or just knocked out).



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Re: GDW:O General Questions Topic

Post by Kaiken » Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:47 pm

Here's Kenshin's long lost brother. Or cousin. Or something.
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He's very much looking like Nobushi, Kenshin's son and the Nokizaru elder too
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