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Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Dragon » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:57 pm

I see lots of people in the fandom calling Unsai a pedophile... and I wondered why he gets the name, but not Moss. Yeah, Unsai does some weird thing where he spreads Orion's legs to check his sex, but compare that to Moss always blushing at the young couples being romantic, claiming he's going to nosebleed and being the friendliest to puppy characters. If I had to tag anyone as pedo, as much as I think Moss is cool otherwise, it would prob be him LOL;;

But I might have missed a scene where Unsai was weirder. Anyone have any opinions or stuff to share about this?
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Atha » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:05 pm

Moss is old, old people finding young couples cute is not pedophilia...
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Digsu » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:26 pm

I assume the whole thing stemmed from the "Unsai looks at Orion's balls" moment, as this was before GDWO translations existed and people had no idea why he would just flip Orion over and look at his junk.

Also, regarding Moss, iirc the only instance where he acted weird towards younger dogs was during one Koyuki/Weed scene. While that was definitely... very weird, it was pretty par for the course for the misaimed attempts at humor the scenes had in general, which also included "gems" like GB commenting that Koyuki had a nice ass and Kurotora making a boner joke at Kyoshiro's expense.

And like Atha said, liking children doesn't automatically make you a pedo.



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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Dragon » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:04 pm

I'm not saying Moss IS a pedophile, I'm just saying from what I've seen of Unsai, Moss is closer to deserving the nickname than him in my opinion. I know people can like children without seeing them that way ^^; Though the nosebleed thing still weirds me out, I know Yoshi isn't the best at humor.

Sorta sad to think a nickname like that stuck around even after the translations showed it was harmless... .. well.. as harmless as something like that could be lol; But that was all I was curious about was if that was why he got called it or if something worse happened.
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Digsu » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:24 pm

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Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:04 pm
I'm not saying Moss IS a pedophile, I'm just saying from what I've seen of Unsai, Moss is closer to deserving the nickname than him in my opinion. I know people can like children without seeing them that way ^^; Though the nosebleed thing still weirds me out, I know Yoshi isn't the best at humor.

Sorta sad to think a nickname like that stuck around even after the translations showed it was harmless... .. well.. as harmless as something like that could be lol; But that was all I was curious about was if that was why he got called it or if something worse happened.
Ah, all right, I see what you mean now.

As far as I know, Unsai looking at Orion's naughty bits is the "worst" thing he does to him... but again, the lack of context didn't help. For example, there's a scene fairly soon afterwards where Unsai takes Orion to the top of the tree the Sanada ninjas live in and gives him a little philosophy lesson. Within context, it's perfectly harmless, but if you don't know what the purpose of the scene was and you've got that balls-checking scene on your mind, it's very easy to get the wrong idea.

I think the reason the "pedo-setter" joke is still alive is simply because it just happened to stick with the fandom, even after the context of the scene became more widely known. That, and checking a child's genitals to find out their sex instead of just asking them is still kinda weird :derpgin:



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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Dragon » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:39 pm

Digsu wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:24 pm
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Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:04 pm
I'm not saying Moss IS a pedophile, I'm just saying from what I've seen of Unsai, Moss is closer to deserving the nickname than him in my opinion. I know people can like children without seeing them that way ^^; Though the nosebleed thing still weirds me out, I know Yoshi isn't the best at humor.

Sorta sad to think a nickname like that stuck around even after the translations showed it was harmless... .. well.. as harmless as something like that could be lol; But that was all I was curious about was if that was why he got called it or if something worse happened.
Ah, all right, I see what you mean now.

As far as I know, Unsai looking at Orion's naughty bits is the "worst" thing he does to him... but again, the lack of context didn't help. For example, there's a scene fairly soon afterwards where Unsai takes Orion to the top of the tree the Sanada ninjas live in and gives him a little philosophy lesson. Within context, it's perfectly harmless, but if you don't know what the purpose of the scene was and you've got that balls-checking scene on your mind, it's very easy to get the wrong idea.

I think the reason the "pedo-setter" joke is still alive is simply because it just happened to stick with the fandom, even after the context of the scene became more widely known. That, and checking a child's genitals to find out their sex instead of just asking them is still kinda weird :derpgin:
That explains a lot X'D
This could be similar to Kaibutsu's case, where he doesn't really have a name, besides P4, but the name stuck because it's been used for so long.
Thanks for explaining to me! :3

..True, he seriously could have just asked LOL;;;
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Tikikata » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:51 pm

Pff, I'm sorry if my using of the nickname in the other topic sparked this debate. It was a nickname we used for him back on the old board, and I've always liked using it for him. That said, I don't think he's actually a pedophile. xD;
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Knight » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:11 pm

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Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:51 pm
Pff, I'm sorry if my using of the nickname in the other topic sparked this debate. It was a nickname we used for him back on the old board, and I've always liked using it for him. That said, I don't think he's actually a pedophile. xD;
Why do you like it? XD just curious
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Dragon » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:07 pm

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Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:51 pm
Pff, I'm sorry if my using of the nickname in the other topic sparked this debate. It was a nickname we used for him back on the old board, and I've always liked using it for him. That said, I don't think he's actually a pedophile. xD;
LOL no it's fine. it just made me remember how I kept seeing the nickname when people bring him up so I wanted to bring it up. Ive been meaning to for a while, just kept forgetting to.
But I'm glad, cuz Unsai is pretty cool for an old man ninja dog -w-
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Tikikata » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:50 am

Knight wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:11 pm
Tikikata wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:51 pm
Pff, I'm sorry if my using of the nickname in the other topic sparked this debate. It was a nickname we used for him back on the old board, and I've always liked using it for him. That said, I don't think he's actually a pedophile. xD;
Why do you like it? XD just curious
I think it's just so ridiculous! Without the context, people can take it the wrong way, so we used it as sort of a justification of why he did it. Now that it's not the case, the nickname's just kind of stuck and it makes me laugh. xD
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Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:07 pm
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Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:51 pm
Pff, I'm sorry if my using of the nickname in the other topic sparked this debate. It was a nickname we used for him back on the old board, and I've always liked using it for him. That said, I don't think he's actually a pedophile. xD;
LOL no it's fine. it just made me remember how I kept seeing the nickname when people bring him up so I wanted to bring it up. Ive been meaning to for a while, just kept forgetting to.
But I'm glad, cuz Unsai is pretty cool for an old man ninja dog -w-
Aaah, yes, Unsai is one of my all-time favorite Ginga characters!! I'm glad to see him still getting some attention! ^^
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Post by Arano » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:55 pm

Haha this whole thing is quite funny, I totally understand why it seems weird if a person wasn't there at the nicknames conception!

Over time I guess the nickname just lost its original meaning, which is why it stuck - it's quite catchy, no? XD An in-joke that just became normalised as opposed to representative.

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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Dragon » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:57 pm

Arano wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:55 pm
Haha this whole thing is quite funny, I totally understand why it seems weird if a person wasn't there at the nicknames conception!

Over time I guess the nickname just lost its original meaning, which is why it stuck - it's quite catchy, no? XD An in-joke that just became normalised as opposed to representative.
When you put it that way, I get what you mean now xD Completely understandable.
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Kasi » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:44 am

There's a worse scene in volume 22...
Yoshi's failed sense of humor.
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How's that?! Let's take a look
and see how big you've gotten!
Beh!

What, you've still got a long way to go...
Your weenie hasn't gotten big enough to call it much.
Wah! Stop that, you perverted old man!

What about you?!
It's all covered in fur so I can't see it!

Waahaha! You found it!!
See, size isn't everything when it comes to men! Hahaha!
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Digsu » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:46 am

Kasi wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:44 am
There's a worse scene in volume 22...
Yoshi's failed sense of humor.
165
How's that?! Let's take a look
and see how big you've gotten!
Beh!

What, you've still got a long way to go...
Your weenie hasn't gotten big enough to call it much.
Wah! Stop that, you perverted old man!

What about you?!
It's all covered in fur so I can't see it!

Waahaha! You found it!!
See, size isn't everything when it comes to men! Hahaha!
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Shiruba » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:39 am

Kasi wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:44 am
There's a worse scene in volume 22...
Yoshi's failed sense of humor.
165
How's that?! Let's take a look
and see how big you've gotten!
Beh!

What, you've still got a long way to go...
Your weenie hasn't gotten big enough to call it much.
Wah! Stop that, you perverted old man!

What about you?!
It's all covered in fur so I can't see it!

Waahaha! You found it!!
See, size isn't everything when it comes to men! Hahaha!
Oh my...
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Post by Dragon » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:01 pm

Kasi wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:44 am
There's a worse scene in volume 22...
Yoshi's failed sense of humor.
165
How's that?! Let's take a look
and see how big you've gotten!
Beh!

What, you've still got a long way to go...
Your weenie hasn't gotten big enough to call it much.
Wah! Stop that, you perverted old man!

What about you?!
It's all covered in fur so I can't see it!

Waahaha! You found it!!
See, size isn't everything when it comes to men! Hahaha!
Well uhm.
I see.
Thats uh....
Yoshi, are you leaking more of your inner thoughts into your work?
we didnt need to know this o_x
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Post by Tora » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:20 pm

Kasi wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:44 am
There's a worse scene in volume 22...
Yoshi's failed sense of humor.
165
How's that?! Let's take a look
and see how big you've gotten!
Beh!

What, you've still got a long way to go...
Your weenie hasn't gotten big enough to call it much.
Wah! Stop that, you perverted old man!

What about you?!
It's all covered in fur so I can't see it!

Waahaha! You found it!!
See, size isn't everything when it comes to men! Hahaha!
That nickname.will forever live on... O.o
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Re: Unsai's Fan Nickname

Post by Tikikata » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:59 am

Kasi wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:44 am
There's a worse scene in volume 22...
Yoshi's failed sense of humor.
165
How's that?! Let's take a look
and see how big you've gotten!
Beh!

What, you've still got a long way to go...
Your weenie hasn't gotten big enough to call it much.
Wah! Stop that, you perverted old man!

What about you?!
It's all covered in fur so I can't see it!

Waahaha! You found it!!
See, size isn't everything when it comes to men! Hahaha!
OOOOH YEAH. THIS... PART.
Oh, Unsai. I love you, but please stop scaring the kids :THOT:
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