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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Hyzenthlay Rose » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:57 am

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I also dislike Orion being compared to Riki - it doesn't make much sense except having red fur, hating bears and being a good fighter. Wasn't Yukimura compared to Riki too because of his red fur?
I'm not 100% sure but I think it was mentioned that red furred akitas are hot heads. excuse me, but I didn't feel that with Riki. Adult Riki was loyal and determined but he was rather calm and analytic instead of charging stupidly into everything. Pup Riki was kind. He was also determined and wanted to prove himself but he also wanted to help others. He cared about his owners and his familly, he was never a rude and selfish brat like Orion.
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Riki was never a hot head what the actual fuck Yoshi

Why are all his red descendants constantly being compared to him even though they're nothing like him?

Is it just because they're red :OUT:

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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Digsu » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:42 am

Yukimura was never compared to Riki. Though imho it would've actually made more sense than the "Orion = Riki" thing because Yukimura at least had Riki's charisma in addition to his strength.

Also I can't recall it ever being said that red Akitas are the most hot-headed ones.



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Post by Troll Berserker » Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:35 am

I said I'm not sure but I think somethink like that was mentioned somewhere. I also found old interviews where Yoshihiro himself said he wanted Orion to be a spitting image of Riki. Yet Riki was never portrayed as "rascal" as he himself described Orion.
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Re: Ginga: The Last Wars SPOILER THREAD

Post by Kaiken » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:48 pm

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I think it would have been interesting if maybe the characters in the story (instead of just the narrator) compared Orion to Riki, and from there we got development about Orion himself feeling like he was in Riki’s shadow (or in turn, tried too hard to be like him) and not wanting to be compared to anyone, but simply wanted to be himself (whether or not “himself” is a good guy or not).

We have Orion compared to Riki shoved down our throats and it feels so weird to see that be said but... just have it be so untrue? Like something more should have been done with such a claim.

The characters have been comparing him, too. Gin, Unsai, Kurotora (I think?) are the ones that come to mind now. Might be more, idk
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Post by Uru » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:34 pm

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I'm not 100% sure but I think it was mentioned that red furred akitas are hot heads. excuse me, but I didn't feel that with Riki. Adult Riki was loyal and determined but he was rather calm and analytic instead of charging stupidly into everything. Pup Riki was kind. He was also determined and wanted to prove himself but he also wanted to help others. He cared about his owners and his familly, he was never a rude and selfish brat like Orion.
I remember that Takahashi once compared Riki, Yukimura and Orion and said that they have similar nature and Takahashi might have also said that red furred akitas are more likely to die in battle. This was when he said that he was considering to kill Orion during GDWO. (I have read this interview like 10 years ago so I'm not 100% sure.) At that time GDWO hadn't been fully published or translated in any way so it started lot of rumors.

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Post by YamaDora » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:46 pm

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The characters have been comparing him, too. Gin, Unsai, Kurotora (I think?) are the ones that come to mind now. Might be more, idk
All comparisons between Riki and Orion made by the characters really compare just their appearance, which is true - they are both red akitas. When Orion was born he was being compared (jokingly) to Sasuke first
Personality-wise all comparisons between the two are pointed out by the narrator as far as I can remember.

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Post by Dragon » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:06 pm

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The characters have been comparing him, too. Gin, Unsai, Kurotora (I think?) are the ones that come to mind now. Might be more, idk
All comparisons between Riki and Orion made by the characters really compare just their appearance, which is true - they are both red akitas. When Orion was born he was being compared (jokingly) to Sasuke first
Personality-wise all comparisons between the two are pointed out by the narrator as far as I can remember.
I can name one scene where he's compared by looks as well. In volume 1 or 2 of GDWO, where the elder of that little dog group in the beginning, had flashbacks to Riki when he saw Orion
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Post by Raki » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:39 pm

I can't wait to see the cover!!!
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Post by Shiruba » Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:57 pm

It's released this month right? What date will it be out?
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Post by Tsukitora » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:07 pm

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It's released this month right? What date will it be out?
The 29th! :)
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Post by Tsukitora » Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:07 pm

Now that I think of it, has anyone had any luck yet with acquiring vol 21?
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Post by Shiruba » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:13 pm

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Now that I think of it, has anyone had any luck yet with acquiring vol 21?
I got mine a week ago, ordered it from ebay. I'd scan some stuff but I don't have a scanner :(
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Post by Kasi » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:04 am

I haven't bought it yet. I will in a few weeks and can scan it if no one else scans before that time.
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Post by Raki » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:40 pm

What do you think about the cover? Any ideas? I hope it's a sight over the Ohu with Sirius and Monsoon together in the sky. It could be pretty cool! OvO
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Post by Tora » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:53 pm

I more wonder of back pic and spine then cover, as cover sem to have same dogs over and over XD
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Post by Shiruba » Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:59 pm

I imagine the spine would either be Sirius or Orion and the back might have Sirius and Monsoon on it.
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Post by Kaiken » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:42 am

My money's on Jerome for front cover.
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Post by FDQ » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:05 am

I already got volume 21, ust haven't had the time to scan it. I've been soooo tired lately. The winter has been getting to me, but it seems the weather is getting lighter and warmer by now, so I should be on the recovering end. I may start scanning this week
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Post by Raki » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:51 am

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I already got volume 21, ust haven't had the time to scan it. I've been soooo tired lately. The winter has been getting to me, but it seems the weather is getting lighter and warmer by now, so I should be on the recovering end. I may start scanning this week
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Post by Tsukitora » Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:03 am

On a more news-ish note, vol 22 cover’s up:

https://www.amazon.co.jp/銀牙-LAST-WARS-2 ... 453713898X

Not quite as spectacular as I had hoped, personally, but it’s understandable since Yoshi’s been on a bit of a hiatus. Although I have to wonder... is Sirius’s image with his back to the front supposed to be a implication of him still being all like “suck my ass, I was right and y’all knew it” even at/after his death? XD
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