'Surnames' of characters

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'Surnames' of characters

Post by Tora » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:01 pm

Let's discuss the "surnames" that some characters have, or if "titles" fits better to describe it.

Surnames:
Gin Nagareboshi (also as Gin the Shooting Star)
Andy Valkom
Kyôshirô Shirogane
Tôbê Kuroki
Kenshin Nokizaru
Yamabiko Kurohabaki
Terumune Kurohabaki
Masamune Kurohabaki
Shin Hidaka
Reiji Hidaka
Nyūdōunsai Sanada


Titles (thanks to Digsu):
Gin: Nagareboshi Gin (Gin the Shooting Star)
Ben: Ouu no Fudou Myou-ou (Fudō Myō-ō of Ohu), Honoo no Shoukou (Blazing Officer), Toushou (literally Brave Leader, translated as Warmaster in the Finnish editions)
John: the Eastern Tiger
Mukonga: Tetsujin (Ironman), Rekkabou (Wildfire Monk)
Kaito: Fuujin
Batto: Shingan (Mind's Eye)
Buruge: Yashamori no Buruge (Buruge of Yaksha forest), Shinigami (Death God)
Kai Bros: Kai no Maken (literally Demon Dogs of Kai, translated as Hellhounds of Kai in the Finnish editions)
Kurotora: Hebigoroshi (Snakeslayer)
Fuuga: Ougon Senshi (Golden Warrior)
Akakabuto: Kyouyuu (Mad Bear)
Moss: Kasumidake no Enma Daiou (Yama of Kasumidake)
Suiga: Sanzu no Kawa no Banpei (Guardian of Sanzu River)
Matheus: Shiroi Urufu (White Wolf)
George: Hagure no George (George the Loner)
Hakutaka: Akame
Ukon: Akame
Shirakami: Akame


Just to name a few. Any others that has a "surname" or "title" to their real name you know of? ^^
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Re: 'Surnames' of characters

Post by Digsu » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:20 pm

There's also at least Jirouta Ishibuchi from GDWO, Reiji Hidaka from the Gaiden series, and of course the Kurohabaki family. Benimaru from GDA also refers to himself as Benimaru Itou once before his death.

I really wish we got some canon explanation for why some dogs take up surnames. Going by Benimaru's case, it's plausible that dogs who belong or used to belong to humans took up their master's surname, but then you have characters like Kyoushiro (yes, I believe Shirogane is meant to be a surname and it being translated like a title into "the Silver" is a translation error) who apparently just gave themselves surnames at random.

As for clear titles, rather than surnames, I can think of:
Ben: Ouu no Fudou Myou-ou (Fudō Myō-ō of Ohu), Honoo no Shoukou (Blazing Officer), Toushou (literally Brave Leader, translated as Warmaster in the Finnish editions)
Mukonga: Tetsujin (Ironman), Rekkabou (Wildfire Monk)
Kite: Fuujin
Batto: Shingan (Mind's Eye)
Kai Bros: Kai no Maken (literally Demon Dogs of Kai, translated as Hellhounds of Kai in the Finnish editions)
Kurotora: Hebigoroshi (Snakeslayer)
Fuuga: Ougon Senshi (Golden Warrior)
Akakabuto: Kyouyuu (Mad Bear)
Moss: Kasumidake no Enma Daiou (Yama of Kasumidake)
Suiga: Sanzu no Kawa no Banpei (Guardian of Sanzu River)
Matheus: Shiroi Urufu (White Wolf)
George: Hagure no George (George the Loner)



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Re: 'Surnames' of characters

Post by Tora » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:44 am

It's really interessting with the 'surnames' and 'titles'. Any more with these? ^^
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Re: 'Surnames' of characters

Post by YamaDora » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:33 am

Does Nokizaru Kenshin count?

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Re: 'Surnames' of characters

Post by Tora » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:39 am

Doragon wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:33 am
Does Nokizaru Kenshin count?
That would definatly do.

As well as:
Yamabiko Kurohabaki
Terumune Kurohabaki
Masamune Kurohabaki
Shin Hidaka
Reiji Hidaka

Anyone else? Also updated the first post ^^
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Re: 'Surnames' of characters

Post by YamaDora » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:56 am

Hakutaka from GDA had a title: Akame.

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Post by Tora » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:22 am

Doragon wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:56 am
Hakutaka from GDA had a title: Akame.
Added. ^^
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Re: 'Surnames' of characters

Post by Atha » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:39 pm

Aside from his introduction, was Kyoushirou ever called Shirogane or Shiro (according to wiki) again?

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Re: 'Surnames' of characters

Post by Kaiken » Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:49 am

John the Eastern Tiger
also, Gin's surname is said to be Ohu. Gin from Ohu, not Nagareboshi. That would be title, not surname..
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Re: 'Surnames' of characters

Post by Tora » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:18 am

Kaiken wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:49 am
John the Eastern Tiger
also, Gin's surname is said to be Ohu. Gin from Ohu, not Nagareboshi. That would be title, not surname..
John is added under Titles. ^^

Also, there's a reason Gin Nagareboshi is both under Surname and Title, as it kinda fits both. Specially if going after Finnish translation that translated it to "Gin Tähdenlento" as in "Gin Shooting Star" where Shooting Star/Nagareboshi is treated as a surname.
And Gin from Ôu is describing where he's from. Like "Akatora form Kai", "Ben from Kofu" "Akame from Iga", etc. It's not a surname. Not more the me would be Tora from Sweden (or the city/area in Sweden I would descibe myself to be from). ^^
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Re: 'Surnames' of characters

Post by Kaiken » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:11 am

Thanks for explaining, and here's some more I remembered:


Hakuro the Brown Bear Killer
Akakabuto the monster
Matheus was also called White Demon


Also, I thought it could be interesting to create a list of their jobs/occupations as well, such as assassins, generals, leaders, vassals, trainers, scouts, messengers, etc?


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Ogasawara Gennai, according to pg135 vol 14 GDWO
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