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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Troll Berserker » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:39 pm

"Why there are no mothers and females in Ginga?" - Most of Ohu dogs go to towns searching for purebreed females to mate with. When pups are old enough they take males to live with them in the wild and leave mother and dauthers with their owners.
Chutora was an exception. He just fell in love instead of taking a broodmother. That's why his pups are not purebreed.

* Smith is gay
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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by YamaDora » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:18 pm

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* Smith is gay
This is hilarious in hindsight because there is actually a scene in the manga where Smith says that he's not gay.

That and he had a huge crush on Cross.

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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Tora » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:05 pm

Doragon wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:18 pm
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* Smith is gay
This is hilarious in hindsight because there is actually a scene in the manga where Smith says that he's not gay.

That and he had a huge crush on Cross.
Could say bi at least XD
That I can say for most dogs in Ginga haha.
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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Atha » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:00 pm

Dogs really don't care about gender irl XD so I... headcanon that formerly pet dogs (like Smith) have (Japanese-centric) human baggage like that.

I also try to explain the sexism that way, because really, google what dog experts say about if gender matters at all for having the best guard and/or hunting dogs.

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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by YamaDora » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:30 pm

Tora wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:05 pm
Doragon wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:18 pm
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Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:39 pm
* Smith is gay
This is hilarious in hindsight because there is actually a scene in the manga where Smith says that he's not gay.

That and he had a huge crush on Cross.
Could say bi at least XD
After escaping from Sniper during the Moss arc and hanging over a waterfall, Smith says to Gin he doesn't wanna die with him because he's not into males.
Again, hilarious in hindsight because when Smith is injured by a bear in the last battle he says he have decided to die with Gin ;p
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Dogs really don't care about gender irl XD so I... headcanon that formerly pet dogs (like Smith) have (Japanese-centric) human baggage like that.
That could be actually canon as Kogas, Igas and Kurohabaki got their goals and views from humans.

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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Troll Berserker » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:20 pm

I didn't really think about this Cross incident, so I would say he was bi, but after Cross dumped him he wasn't interested in girls anymore.
He always came to me as this "secret gay" - the one that would be first to brag about girls and not being gay but he is actually gay.

And hey it's just my headcanon, I'm not like forcing it on anyone.
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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Atha » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:58 am

Doragon wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:30 pm
Atha wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:00 pm
Dogs really don't care about gender irl XD so I... headcanon that formerly pet dogs (like Smith) have (Japanese-centric) human baggage like that.
That could be actually canon as Kogas, Igas and Kurohabaki got their goals and views from humans.
Haha I wish, but there are a few wild dogs with such attitudes, like the Kai bros and Hiro, but I prefer my version to Yoshihiro's

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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Mako » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:34 am

Jerome and the monster/P-4 are brothers.

In a lot of earlier volumes, he and Jerome have vaguely similar facial markings, and are the same age. My canon is that he and Jerome were training together to work at the research facility, but a hardy, easy-to-work-with dog was needed for a genetic experiment - enter the hardy, people-pleasing German Shepherd brothers.

Jerome's brother had a more easygoing attitude, and was selected for the experiment, eventually growing into a horrible monster. That's the reason Jerome spent time talking to the monster - as his madness grew and his mind warped, Jerome hoped traces of his brother were still in there.

After the initial violent outburst and escape from the lab, Jerome could no longer see him as his brother, and vowed to hunt him down.
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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Dragon » Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:03 am

Mako wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:34 am
Jerome and the monster/P-4 are brothers.

In a lot of earlier volumes, he and Jerome have vaguely similar facial markings, and are the same age. My canon is that he and Jerome were training together to work at the research facility, but a hardy, easy-to-work-with dog was needed for a genetic experiment - enter the hardy, people-pleasing German Shepherd brothers.

Jerome's brother had a more easygoing attitude, and was selected for the experiment, eventually growing into a horrible monster. That's the reason Jerome spent time talking to the monster - as his madness grew and his mind warped, Jerome hoped traces of his brother were still in there.

After the initial violent outburst and escape from the lab, Jerome could no longer see him as his brother, and vowed to hunt him down.
Wow, I like that headcanon a lot!
It explains Jerome's extreme dedication to Kaibutsu when everyone else turned their backs on him and why Kaibutsu looks pretty GSD-like.
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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Digsu » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:55 am

I suppose I might as well throw my own headcanon about Kaibutsu here, though I do admit that it is significantly more far-fetched than Mako's.
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It's my headcanon that Kaibutsu was a cloned dog. The sort of magical fantasy clone that doesn't need a foster mother and is just grown in a tube with the power of SCIENCE.

The reason he never knew his parents? He didn't have parents. Some scientist dude just decided "you know what, we're gonna make a dog that we're somehow gonna turn into an organ donor for humans", mixed up some DNA and made something mostly-canine from it.

His owner "always thinking of him as nothing but a test subject"? The owner literally created him and, as a result, considered him both his property and not really a living being at all.

The guard dogs other than Jerome thinking he "wasn't like them"? From their point of view, he was a goddamn aberration. What kind of dog comes into being without parents and is raised from a tiny blob in a glass tube? No dog, obviously, so he couldn't possibly have been one.

The missing skin and fur? A defect that emerged due to faults in the cloning process. Playing Lego with genetics tends to come at a price.



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Post by Dragon » Sat Apr 07, 2018 3:08 pm

That's a good thought too, Digsu. I mean, Jerome calls that sort of world he lived in 'the Underworld' and in a place like that, they make dogs into assassins ... cloning sounds within their moral list too.
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Post by Raki » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:44 pm

Moss and Benizakura have a secret love. I always thought that they were too close buddies haha

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Post by ZackThePuppy » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:36 pm

Mako wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:34 am
Jerome and the monster/P-4 are brothers.

In a lot of earlier volumes, he and Jerome have vaguely similar facial markings, and are the same age. My canon is that he and Jerome were training together to work at the research facility, but a hardy, easy-to-work-with dog was needed for a genetic experiment - enter the hardy, people-pleasing German Shepherd brothers.

Jerome's brother had a more easygoing attitude, and was selected for the experiment, eventually growing into a horrible monster. That's the reason Jerome spent time talking to the monster - as his madness grew and his mind warped, Jerome hoped traces of his brother were still in there.

After the initial violent outburst and escape from the lab, Jerome could no longer see him as his brother, and vowed to hunt him down.
That seems like a very plausible theory! I'm in love with it <3
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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Digsu » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:15 pm

Some relationship ones:
-Tokimune and Gin are related somehow. Either Tokimune is Gin's nephew, or a bastard son he conceived in his youth.

-Harutora and Nobutora are Kagetora's half-brothers from a different mother. It's why Kagetora looks like a pure-bred Kai Ken like his father, while his brothers have coat colors Kais can't have.

-Masamune heavily takes after his mother, which is why he looks nothing like Terumune or Yamabiko.

-Shiro's father or grandfather was a wolf and the direct descendant of the first user of Zetsu Tenrou Battouga. This is the reason Gin and his descendants can still use the Zetsu Tenrou Battouga while all the other GNG dogs seemingly forgot theirs - he's much more closely related to the original Eight Warriors than the others. It's also why one of Shiro's potential colors is brindle-less silver, a color Akitas can't normally have.



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Post by Atha » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:45 pm

Digsu wrote:
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Shiro's father or grandfather was a wolf and the direct descendant of the first user of Zetsu Tenrou Battouga. This is the reason Gin and his descendants can still use the Zetsu Tenrou Battouga while all the other GNG dogs seemingly forgot theirs - he's much more closely related to the original Eight Warriors than the others. It's also why one of Shiro's potential colors is brindle-less silver, a color Akitas can't normally have.
That actually makes some sense out of that arc.

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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Bolty » Sat May 05, 2018 1:30 pm

Mako wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:34 am
Jerome and the monster/P-4 are brothers.

In a lot of earlier volumes, he and Jerome have vaguely similar facial markings, and are the same age. My canon is that he and Jerome were training together to work at the research facility, but a hardy, easy-to-work-with dog was needed for a genetic experiment - enter the hardy, people-pleasing German Shepherd brothers.

Jerome's brother had a more easygoing attitude, and was selected for the experiment, eventually growing into a horrible monster. That's the reason Jerome spent time talking to the monster - as his madness grew and his mind warped, Jerome hoped traces of his brother were still in there.

After the initial violent outburst and escape from the lab, Jerome could no longer see him as his brother, and vowed to hunt him down.
OMG yes! This make sense! Good theory
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Post by Dragon » Sat May 05, 2018 4:59 pm

Digsu wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:15 pm
Some relationship ones:
-Harutora and Nobutora are Kagetora's half-brothers from a different mother. It's why Kagetora looks like a pure-bred Kai Ken like his father, while his brothers have coat colors Kais can't have.

-Shiro's father or grandfather was a wolf and the direct descendant of the first user of Zetsu Tenrou Battouga. This is the reason Gin and his descendants can still use the Zetsu Tenrou Battouga while all the other GNG dogs seemingly forgot theirs - he's much more closely related to the original Eight Warriors than the others. It's also why one of Shiro's potential colors is brindle-less silver, a color Akitas can't normally have.
I coulda sworn I commented to this before... but I guess not. The Shiro one sounds really really possible! And Akitas are one of those breeds said to be closest to wolves, so it'd make a lot of sense!

Kagetora's one would make a lot of sense for their strange designs. But then again, Yoshi really likes to pick in choose when the pups have just their mother design, just their father design, or both, like Ken and George.
I still think it'd be really interesting if your theory was true though.
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Post by Kaiken » Sun May 13, 2018 2:45 pm

Atha wrote:
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-Smith became mature due to something that happened between GNG and GDW, not just age
Maybe that something could have been Chutora's betrayal? That would also explain why Ohu army in GDW was barely 200 dogs (with Hougen having 800+), when they had gathered 2500+ at the end of GNG.
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Re: Ginga Headcanons

Post by Tove » Tue May 22, 2018 10:44 pm

Weed & bros aren't really Gin's sons. Who's to say the dog we saw even was Sakura? Upon meeting GB, the terminally ill mother begged him to take the child to his father, the great leader of Ohu, Gin. Maybe she did this to give the pup a chance to survive. Maybe she was hoping GB wouldn't just abandon the puppy if he thought Gin was the father. I mean Weed was a bit of a pain in the butt, can't blame GB for ditching him, and I reckon fake Sakura knew it too. Or who knows, maybe she was just delusional after suffering for so long and being mere seconds away from death.

The 3 brothers are related to Gin through his siblings, though, which is why they have both the Battouga and the supposedly rare tora-ge genes running through their veins.

My theory is that Gin's pups are still out there somewhere, safe from all the pain and destruction.

(My theory is also flawed but I refuse to believe Gin would produce such whiny babies so please don't take this from me ;___;)

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Fuji has the diamond mark and she is related to Yamato
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