Doragon wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:19 pm
Kaiken wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:26 pmJust because Weed has other sons doesn't mean any of them can lead. They're not as strong and not as important as Orion. Orion is The Protagonist.
Gin had two siblings, Hiyan and Giyan who were no leaders.
Weed had two siblings, Yukimura and Joe, who also were no leaders and Joe only played a secondary role. Rigel and Sirius will both be Joe. Ginga is so predictable.
Gin's siblings were not trained bear hounds from what we know, and the focus in GNG was always on Gin anyway. Also, "Hiyan" and "Giyan" are not their names, that is just a mistranslation based on the sounds they make when Gohee kicks them. Yukimura was the leader of the his foster father's pack when he was paralyzed, and Joe was the leader of his hunting group. They were not Gin's predecessors because they got separated from their family when they were little. Had Sakura not believed the lies told her and left Ohu, Yukimura or Joe might had become supreme commander instead of Weed. The fact is, we don't know what would happened if things didn't go as we know them now.
Orion is not
the protagonist. Orion
and Sirius are the protagonists. Both have got pretty much equally same amount of focus and growth over the series, specially in The Last Wars.
Kaiken wrote: ↑Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:26 pmPlus, they determine the leader like ''you've outgrown me, ur the leader now. Congrats, now bow everyone!'' and Jerome, Gin and Akame have all stated that Orion has outgrown Weed. Once Orion defeats some big scale enemy, like Monsoon (and probably lets him go, just for the sake of making his bro happy, he'll have ''outgrown them mentally'' and boom - Ori's the new leader. The end. Last war. :P4
No, they don't do that. Gin only became the leader because Riki died (and he was Riki's son). Gin put Weed to a test, and he passed that test and became the new leader.
And since when Gin and Akame have said that? Because I don't remember that at all.
I know that it's not their real names. Why are you pointing that out? You're currently leaving a rather arrogant impression on yourself. Don't do that. It's not very nice.
Those are nothing. Hadn't Yukimura's fake father been paralyzed Yuki wouldn't be leader. Even if he would, it's just a tiny group. It means nothing. Even more nothing means Joe leading hunting party. It has absolute zero significance and has nothing to do with leadership and it's qualities.
Nope, not Joe, but Yuki really would have had a higher chance of becoming boss instead of Weed. Yet, that has nothing to do with Orion's leadership topic.
No. Sirius is not the protagonist. He's one of the main characters, but he's most definitely not a protagonist, nor in GDWO, nor in GTLW. GDWO is even named after ORION.
Gin became the next leader because he proved to be strong, even stronger than Riki. Or eaqually at least. Had he not, Ben or Sniper would have become the next leader, because the leader didn't know about Sniper's threachery.
Again, Weed ''passed'' just because of his qualities. Those qualities were greater than Gin's, so he was better.
Akame said it when he told Orion to practise with bamboo, and Gin said it when they were spending time together/talking/whatever.